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Dan · Joined: Dec 31, 1969 Posts: 282 Location: USA

That would be "What objective measure Do All Life Form use to MEASURE how any set of circumstances affects their staying alive?".

Scientific Implications are described in conclusions below.

The major one is that this Measure of Value must serve as the explicit, objective causal premise upon which all scientific theories are based, as how we order all our sensory inputs goes through this measure.

Analogy: The No 1st Cost List interface. It treats all users = sensory inputs alike, outputting good info for all.

The answer must meet three obvious constraints.

First, it must be an objective measure = we all can see it, rap it with our knuckles, etc.
Second, it must be the one thing common to everything you do, or I do, or any other life form on the universe does.
Third, it must be as obvious as the nose on your face once it is pointed out = A Mr. Ed; "Why of course, its a horse, of course its a horse, a talking horse, why of course, its Mr. Ed.". In short, you can not deny the evidence of your senses, as when your thumb gets hit by a 32 ounce framing hammer. Yeouch!
So get ready to say, "Of course!".

DEFINITION. Measure = that which stays 'constant' while using it to compare all other things; e.g. I use a one foot long ruler to 'measure' the dimensions of a room.

In practice, it is the ratio(s) of two or more finite fixed quantities of 'things'. e.g. The table top is ten 'water glass bottoms wide'; or the water glass is 'one tenth of a table top wide'. You just have to designate which is the base measure. In practice, it is the easiest to use(a test of the measure). Thus for fundamental theory making, you have to actually discover the base measure that is common to all possible observations made by we life forms.

Ergo, it takes two real things to make a measure = comparison.

For a Measure of Personal Value for any and all life forms, it must be the one thing common to everything I do, or you do, or the bug on the floor, or the E-T in the Andromeda galaxy. i.e. It is the base common measure for all things we can perceive in the universe. How's that for an all statement? That should be really easy to falsify = come up with an observation that contradicts the assertion.

ITS SHOW & TELL TIME Put your bet down. Can he make me say, "Of Course!". I say a $100 to a dollar that I am right. Better read first before you take up the bet. I like dollars. All you have to do is swear in front of all that you do not use your common objective measure of value the way everyone else does.

The PROOF

Method, the use of questions and answers = Socratic.

In order to meet out three constraints, we must answer the question just below. By the way, Consciously Knowing what the Measure of Value is, is extremely useful. Since NOT publicly knowing what the measure is explains why we are an unconscious Three Monkey Society(3MS).

THE QUESTION: What is the one OBJECTIVE thing common to everything you do?
You must be able to perceive it with your properly operating sensory apparatus. I have asked well over 50,000 people this question over the last 23 years, three people got it right without showing them first.

ANSWER: What do you see when you look in the mirror in the morning? Why your life form, of course. That body you are trotting around is the one thing that is common to everything you do, at least while you are in body oh fellow spirit.

NEXT QUESTION: How many hours a day do you have in your body? It is not a trick question.

ANSWER: 24 hours a day. That is the same for the bug on the floor if it should live so long, isn't it?, and the E-T in the Andromeda Galaxy? YEP, of course.

ERGO: One unit of time alive per unit time as measured by the speed of light. Notice I just hooked us into e = mc^.

CONCLUDING QUESTION: Since we life forms prefer staying alive, correct for you right? Ergo, when we take to long to get what we need to stay alive, WE DIE, right? YEP, that is true.

THUS IN ORDER TO STAY ALIVE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, we 'own time cost minimizers'(up to now unconsciously), try to SPEND as little OF OUR PERSONAL TIME AS POSSIBLE GETTING WHAT WE NEED TO STAY ALIVE.

WHY oh WHY would we do that. Because when we take to long to get what we need to stay alive, Our Life Forms DIE.

CONCLUSIONS

1. Scientific, once we know the 'Measure of Value' all of us life forms use to try and stay alive with, and thus, to organize all of our perceptions of reality; then it must serve as the 'OBJECTIVE CAUSAL PREMISE' for all scientific theories.

2. Base Logic for Doing Science: Since Economic Logic is the logic of personal value maximization filters all measurements, it Must Be the Base Logic of Physics.

3. Nature of Universe implication: The fact we life forms are "own time cost minimizers" proves the universe is conserved = NO FREE LUNCH forever; i.e. sooner or later, the piper must be paid. However, we could not be alive without a 'float time' a short 'free lunch' time. We could use this 'float time' to 'DODGE THE BULLET' by Waking Up and preventing our Sun from being hit by our conservation debt.

4. Cost of Staying Unconscious Implication: Unconscious gets you dead and all the rest of us to. There is a plus to staying unconscious, you do not have to be honest with the rest of us, or admit you have implicit responsibilities to the rest of us Life Forms who sell you what you need to stay alive with. My God, actual honesty, what a scary thought.

5. Inevitable Social Result of Unconscious Own Cost Minimization: A Three Monkey Society(3MS) Leadership is the inevitable result of 'unconscious own cost minimizers' running a society for their personal gain. Boy our fearless leaders sure have that 'See, Hear, and Speak no Evil about their mistakes and crimes down pat don't they?
"We don't have enough time to assign blame now.", they always say when something they cause goes wrong. Don't worry, the universe does have time to assign blame.

6. Wake up and smell the roses, we have a conservation debt made of Anti-Matter that is going to fry us next July 16, 2012 unless we become a Captain based civilization before January 16, 2012.

7. Mr. Ed time. I assert that I have demonstrated beyond a shadow of doubt what we Life Forms Common Objective Measure of Value is. Any takers on my bet? Anybody willing to assert in front of all that they are not "own time cost minimizers in trying to get what they need to stay alive"?

A Final Question

Why No Public Credit? The answer is simple. Public credit for any discovery that shows members of a 3MS they are members of a 3MS must be denied or the 3MS dies a public confession death. That would be a violation of 'own cost minimization'. Members of a 3MS can not admit they are wrong because their power, status, and money will go away. Eek!.

Actually not true in practice, the confession generates forgiveness as we need them to run governments and businesses.

I started showing you this FUNDAMENTAL SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY over 18 years ago. No public credit yet. A confirming test showing a 3MS presently runs science. Fear and greed are its rulers, its members keep their places in its pecking order by denying credit where credit is due. That has to stop now, doesn't it? We will see.

Dan Alter

Dan · Joined: Dec 31, 1969 Posts: 282 Location: USA

Einstein there was no "objective simultaneity", yet to go FTL there must be. In fact we could not have a past, present, or future without a simultaneous NOW for all of existence.

So what does that mean? By inspection if there is a "simultaneous NOW " that expands into the future as the evidence shows our universe doing; then we have two problems;

1. How do we deal with the past we see now from long ago or any ago? e.g. Light from Quasars from 10 billion years ago just now striking us. Obviously, the source "still exists" now but it also existed at every point in between? So how do we go there(anywhere in past) at FTL is the question which I have answered elsewhere.

a. So does the past still exist for us to go there? Yes or no FTL.

2. Does the future exist NOW? Answer = NOW but we are on the margin of creating it at the c boundary. We create it out of the past.
a. requires entanglement.

Some thoughts for now.

D