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Affecting Earth E-T Message Summary 12-10-2009 edit
This message uses the standard three part form of explanation: It says, "Earth is going to be vaporized when its conservation debt of Anti-Matter strikes the Sun on July 16, 2012 at 10:57 UTC."

I. Tell them what is going to happen in 7 units of time = part 1. = Barbary Castle crop circle.

II. Establish time unit used and show them a real world example of destruction = part 2 of message and then show them a picture of the outcome and where to learn exactly when. = Shoemaker-Levy 9 comet and "Missing Earth" crop circle.

III. Sum it up by showing us a real 'non natural' asteroid conjunction in the ME circle to verify exactly when the event will occur. Parts 4 & 5 of our E-T message are the hopefully two not normal asteroid conjunctions, which conclusively establishe that the message can only be from E-Ts.

(12-08-09 The ME could be showing that the conjunction is to occur July 16, 2012. I figured out a way that made sense when you do a head to toe mirror look at ME, i.e. from South Heliocentric view = clockwise like the Barbary Castle turns = seven 3 unit/hour/Earth years jumps around the clock finishes at your 9 o'clock. Remember E-Ts are using units of 3 Earth years as shown by Shoemaker-Levy 9. This doesn't change the message, just means we have to establish exactly when another harder but possible way.)

There are seven repetitions of the July 16/17 Earth sidereal year anniversary date to the second in this message starting with the:

1. Barbary Castle crop circle Put down July 17, 1991 at 1:45 AM, two pairs of eyewitnesses.
Says, "Earth will to be vaporized by ray from Sun in Seven units of time." = Tell them what it is all about.

2. Shoemaker-Levy 9 first impact an July 16, 1994 at 20:13 UTC. exactly three sidereal Earth years after the BC circle hit the ground. Show them an example of what is going to happen = total destruction; AND establish their unit of time = three Earth sidereal years.

3. Explain what the message is all about = the results.
Missing Earth crop circle(Longwood-Warren) It was seen morning of June 26, 1995. It has three July 16/17th sidereal anniversary dates in it. Positions of remaining three planets = July 17, 2003. Positions of 65 asteroids = July 16, 2009 and it shows a conjunction two asteroids.

4. This first asteroid conjunction begins to establish exactly when to the microsecond by showing us The Tick or beginning of your final three sidereal year time unit. First conjunction of two asteroids = July 16, 2009 at 16;32 UTC at the nine o'clock of our North Heliocentric view of our solar system.

5. The second conjunction at the 6 o'clock of our North heliocentric view of solar system on July 16, 2012 at : The Tock using our clock face, Tell them what you just said. (11-30-09 The "6 o'clock" was changed from 12 o'clock. See 11-30-09 Message Tree comment as to why.)

You need a tick-tock to establish the time precisely. With the Tock you sum up what the previous parts of the message says.

The first three parts of message are on the public record, the final two, the conjunction(s), have to be verified by our astronomers. These two conjunctions did not occur naturally, they were caused and certainly not by us. Ergo, we are being contacted by E-Ts.

Posted by Dan Friday, November 13, 2009 (23:47:28)
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Re: E-T Message Summary 12-10-2009 edit (Score: 1 )
by Dan on Friday, July 09, 2010 (00:33:03)
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A message from E-Ts would seem to be intrinsically interesting, yet no comments, no questions.

It is the lack of questions that describes our civic awareness state = low. No questioning is the mark of serf thinking.



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A thought experiment leads to a Warning about a Preventable catastrophic danger to Earth.

In February 1991 I theoretically predicted that when spirits create and move life forms by splitting base molecules into plus and minus halves, they must put the Anti-Matter half on the other side/surface of our Moebius geometry universe. Eventually our conservation debt comes back striking our Sun, Kaboom. It was just a deductive thought experiment, I had no evidence of any kind.

On February 10, 1992 in a February 1, 1992 Science News article "Geometric Harvest" by Gerard Hawkins, I saw objective evidence that absolutely confirmed my theoretical prediction. It was a picture of Earth being vaporized that could only have been drawn by someones who had seen these events up close from space. Ergo, E-Ts not us. It was the first large complex crop circle, the Barbary Castle.

It was extraordinarily disconcerting. It took me three days to deduce there must be an out, a way to prevent Earth from being vaporized.

Since it can be prevented, I have been warning you ever since.


Last December after seeing Avatar, I finally realized that I was faced with a terrible ethical question. It was the answer to a question that had bothered me from the beginning about the E-T warning ritual. Their warning was absolutely minimal. "Why would they want us to die without a try?" They were life lovers too, they did business here without bothering us, yet no obvious in your face public warning?

The answer is unfortunately obvious. It was because we are a Three Monkey Society(3MS), which makes us criminally insane. Clearly with FTL, we would do to them what we did to the North and South American Indians. Given the simple means of doing faster than light(FTL) star travel, turning a 3MS loose with FTL travel would literally mean other non 3MS FTL planetary societies would be committing suicide. (Yes I can prove how the E-Ts do FTL, and it does not violate going faster than light over the surface of our Moebius Strip Geometry universe.)

My ethical duty is to save life here on Earth.
But the E-T's duty is to other living planets. Since they love life to, then only hard experience would make them choose to let a 3MS die. For sure, we would not listen to them telling us to stop being bad. We have to figure this out for ourselves.

So what can we do to show them we have stopped being a 3MS? Only an election and a public cry directly to them for help. That is the only way I see out of this dilemma.

We must have their help now, we need two working interplanetary FTL ships as it is probably too late to build them ourselves.

THEREFORE, the only way I or the E-Ts can ethically help disconnect our conservation debt made of Anti-Matter(A-M) is for Earth's citizens to show by DEED IN PUBLIC that we have ended being a Three Monkey Society. That means our leaders must start Using the N1CL right now; so we can demonstrate publicly we are not a 3MS anymore.

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Scientific background to the Warning

"Objective facts" are eyewitness measurements and observations that are confirmed by other honest reporters. Thus "Objective facts" can only be created by two or more honest people. Since science is for all of us, this must mean negative or positive public feedback from anyone who sees "logical and observational discrepancies" in any scientist's public assertions. How else can our reports and theories be confirmed, improved, or disproved?

I, Dan Alter, made a fundamental scientific discovery in 1985. What "objective" measure of value that we spirits/souls all must and do use to keep our life forms alive. Presently here on Earth, almost always unconsciously. How to measure personal value and thus the common good. We unconsciously value(logically order) any piece of information we perceive through this measure. Thus knowing consciously what it is and how we use it must serve as the 'objective' causal premise for a scientific Grand Unification Theory.

It is a measure that by construction, assumes a conserved universe: One unit of time per unit of time alive, and no take backs.

In a conserved universe, we spirits must create a conservation debt made of Anti-Matter to keep our life forms alive. The only two questions that matter now are: 'when does the debt came due?', and 'can we disconnect from it?'. The answer to doing a disconnection is, of course, yes. God always gives us a final out. Doing a disconnection means we go faster than light(FTL) to the other side of the Sun. Should my prediction of how to do FTL be true, then it is simple to do and within our technological capabilities, and certainly the E-Ts capabilities.

One of the N1CL's highest services is to Objectively Verify or Disprove warnings of danger to Earth or anybody on Earth.


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Reported by Dan Alter, n1cl-1.


I am a scientist. I have sworn to tell the truth on this public record.

I have a fearful prediction for the rest of you to confirm. At first, it was just a theoretical prediction with no objective evidence supporting it; but since 1992, a series of published scientific reports have verified every single causal link in the underlying theory, and now we there is a way to conclusively confirm the theories' ultimate conclusion.

For life to exist on a planet, we objectively real spirits must create a planetary conservation debt made of Anti-Matter(A-M) when we make our life forms move. Our spirits put our A-M debt onto the other side of our Moebius Strip Geometry Universe. Eventually a planet's conservation debt comes back to Earth striking our Sun, or it must be consciously disconnected. Our public choice.

Most present scientists deny that our life forms are driven by objectively real spirits, and they also believe that Einstein's Relativity Theory shows there is no base "frame of reference" that tie all other personal "reference frames" together. As we will see, both assertions are proven wrong when it is shown that we have an A-M conservation debt.

The crucial piece of proof that we are, in fact spirits, is that the E-Ts warning message shows exactly how our conservation debt made of Anti-Matter strikes our Sun, vaporizing Earth, leaving an Afterglow of expanding cooling gases. These afterglows were first seen by the Hubble after a 1997 Long Term Gamma Blaster(LTGB). Now we have seen many more afterglows after a LTGB occurs = vaporized life bearing planets.

The E-T public warning is a chilling four or five part message that includes two famous crop circles. The first was the "Barbary Castle" placed down on July 17, 1991 at 1:45 AM UTC that shows us how we are vaporized and the 'afterglow' that follows. It was followed exactly to the minute three years later by the Shoemaker-Levy comet that struck Jupiter on July 16, 1994(leap year) at 20:13 PM UTC. The third part of the E-T warning was the 'Missing Earth" crop circle On June 26, 1995 showing an asteroid conjunction.

The remaining parts of the E-T's warning message are one or probably two asteroid conjunction(s)' that can not occur naturally' = "must be caused by someones not from Earth". We will know which possibility after our astronomers look.

Read carefully, think, consider carefully, then act. Everyone's life depends upon our acting consciously and swiftly in public.

Predicted Conjunction(s)
When the asteroid conjunction shown in the 'Missing Earth" occurs on July 16, 2009, there will be a second conjunction on July 16, 2012 which decisively sums up the E-T's message.

Should the asteroid conjunction occur on July 16, 2012, then we will not get a second conjunction, and we will have to use other measurements to determine exactly when.

Confirming that one or both of these 'must be caused' asteroid conjunctions exists confirms that the message must be from E-Ts, since we Earthlings can not move asteroids into conjunction. Read More.





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Dan: "Any man who wants to be president is either an egomaniac or crazy." Dwight D. Eisenhower .
31-Aug-2010 05:09:48
Dan: Eq: We locate ourselves between two boundaries with a 'no can go direction' and a preferred direction on or ahead of M surface. M twists back on itself forced by 'no can go direction' = violate conservation. Prefered direction is towards a 'split', a replication by sub-division; but subdivision does not catch what is going on. When a M divides it expands in circuference and surface area. Maybe call the process 'expand by division' while not fiolating conservation with respect to base input.
28-Aug-2010 03:52:16
Dan: "Do we Earthlings deserve to live, deserve to be helped by the E-Ts and thus me?" The answer is of course, a resounding yes. I, you, the E-Ts are duty bound as self life lovers; since we live by XC. I, We just have to ask them to help the right way. So what is the way???? Use the List, that has to be key. Ask, "Will you help us verify that Earth faces a mortal danger?".
27-Aug-2010 05:02:20
Dan: I have spent the last year trying to get out of doing this disconnection with a whole heart like my "we are too bad to live" ala Avatar. We make our future always, that is what staying alive requires. There is always an out, always at least two alternatives, you just have to see the 'split' that creates the alternative, starting with the opposite possibility. Anyway, I can't wiggle off the hook, it is do or die as life always depends on adapting, adjusting, improvising to change the "particular circumstances of time and place" Hayek, in a way that keeps Us alive.
27-Aug-2010 04:44:43
Dan: But we are all copies of God = little Moebiuses, just not big enough or old enough to be self-aware; so is Mother earth self-aware, as we life forms aggregate many independent cells symbiotically?
21-Aug-2010 06:28:08
Dan: [b]Why this well from hell?[/b] Mother Earth is using us to try and kill off over half the biomass on the planet in less than one year beginning July 16, 2011. To use us this way means we are not very conscious of what is really going on.
19-Aug-2010 20:11:42
Dan: New problem w BP well. There is something causing a plug. They are worried about over pressure???? On Drudge. "Final Gulf oil well 'kill' plan on hold amid pressure fears", "WASHINGTON (AFP) – A long-standing deadline for sealing the ruptured Gulf of Mexico well deep below the seabed will be missed as US officials and BP tackle concerns about debris lodged in the well. BP and US government representatives had hoped to complete a "bottom kill" procedure and officially pronounce the well dead by mid-August, but the US pointman on the oil spill response said Monday the bid was on hold. Admiral Thad Allen said that an earlier successful process sealing the well from above may have wedged cement between two layers of casing, trapping leaked crude inside the void.".xxxxx In short, they don't know what is going on. Come on, please give us a plugged well for real.
17-Aug-2010 20:46:26
Dan: Obama is self destructing. a perfect opportunity to show he is for the first amendment and religious freedom and he temporizes. He is an empty suit.
17-Aug-2010 12:45:49
Dan: Why does BP well still leak? Since they expected 9000 psi after capping well, but got 6450 psi rising slowly to 7000 pse; then there are three possibilities. 1. a leak with a grindup from bottom that reduces weight of oil/gas in well bore above intake; 2. no leak, but field pressure is increasing; 3. A leak, but rock formation is gradually sealing itself off implying exponential pressure increase as formation seals off. The second possibility, field pressure increasing gradually seems unlikely in any biotic field, where 2#psi per hour would be fast I would think. Whereas an abiotic field = very very large would be constant implying possibility one = A big leak!!
14-Aug-2010 21:27:47
Dan: Changed "How We Life Forms Measure Personal Value and Thus the General Welfare" to " How We Measure The General Welfare With We Life Forms Common Measure of Personal Value."
13-Aug-2010 07:42:37
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