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Dan: 12-Nov-2017 16:01:13
This quote says it well from "Do Disclosures of Atrocities Change Anything?" By ALEXANDER COCKBURN Counterpunch, July 31, 1010. twitchy questions such as that asked by The Nation’s Chris Hayes on the Rachel Maddow Show: “I wonder ultimately to whom WikiLeaks ends up being accountable.” The answer to that last question was given definitively in 1851 by Robert Lowe, editorial writer for the London Times. He had been instructed by his editor to refute the claim of a government minister that if the press hoped to share the influence of statesmen, it “must also share in the responsibilities of statesmen.” “The first duty of the press,” Lowe wrote, “is to obtain the earliest and most correct intelligence of the events of the time, and instantly, by disclosing them, to make them the common property of the nation… The Press lives by disclosures… For us, with whom publicity and truth are the air and light of existence, there can be no greater disgrace than to recoil from the frank and accurate disclosure of facts as they are. We are bound to tell the truth as we find it, without fear of consequences – to lend no convenient shelter to acts of injustice and oppression, but to consign them at once to the judgment of the world.”]. I can not say this better. We seek the truth as individuals and when enough of us do in public then we become a civilized society. I know it does not have to be a majority, but it must be at least a few percent of us; then the exemplars lead us all.

Dan: 16-Oct-2017 05:40:44
In thinking more on the following entry, only a quarter of the inner surface of a single twist M have a Bowtie Line; thus extending these lines to the outer side of the M surface equals half the sueface. So the question is "What pattern?" and "What amgles with the center point of the M?", and "which of these centerpoint lines extend to another point on M surface?": Dan: 22-Jul-2017 09:47:54 geometric discovery on Moebius Strips; a Moebius Geometry Theorem: All points on the inner surface of a Moebius have a Bow Tie Line. Inner surface = one can draw a straight line to the center of the Moebius. Passing through the center point is not required to generate a BTL.

Dan: 30-Aug-2017 01:33:09
Burning Betty Zero Hedge August 29, 2017: Time for that good ol' GDP joke: "Two Keynesian economists, John Maynard Keynes and Paul Krugman, were walking down the street one day when they passed two large piles of dog (edited). Keynes said to Krugman, "I'll pay you $20,000 to eat one of those piles of (edited)." Krugman agrees and chooses one of the piles and eats it. Keynes pays him his $20,000. Then Krugman, feeling richer, says, "I'll pay you $20,000 to eat the other pile of (edited)." Keynes, feeling bad about the money he lost says okay, and eats the (edited). Krugman pays him the $20,000. They resume walking down the street. After a while, Krugman says, "You know, I don't feel very good. We both have the same amount of money as when we started. The only difference is we've both eaten (edited)." Keynes says: "Ah, but you're ignoring the fact that we've increased the GDP by $40,000." And as someone stated as a comment to this joke; "That is really all you need to know about GDP… it's all dog(edited)."

Dan: 28-Aug-2017 08:27:52
a french writer remarked, American civilization has passe from barbarism to decadence without once knowing civilizatiom." ; Memoirs of a Superfluous Man

Dan: 28-Aug-2017 07:45:11
"A person engaged in mindless pursuit must always be in pursuit of mindlessness." ; That is my new second favourite quotation from Cognitive Dissonance, with this quote first: "The absolute best controlled opposition is one that doesn't know they are controlled." ReturnOfDaMac' ;s picture

Dan: 20-Aug-2017 10:50:57
Francis Bacon: “Men prefer to believe what they prefer to be True.”

amir.bukhari: 26-Jul-2017 09:19:38
Very Happy Rolling Eyes

Dan: 22-Jul-2017 17:47:54
geometric discovery on Moebius Strips; a Moebius Geometry Theorem: All points on the inner surface of a Moebius have a Bow Tie Line. Inner surface = one can draw a straight line to the center of the Moebius. Passing through the center point is not required to generate a BTL.

Dan: 28-Jun-2017 06:07:29
I have thought long on Hammer's proposal. We need to start with a clean slate, but only after we set example as "Hammer of Justice" demands. We can't punish all of our leaders who have done crimes, but we must set swift ruthless examples with the worst. Once this is done, then we can actually begin with a clean slate. This means we must do a general amnesty. How is simple. We have to politically agree to start No First Cost politically everywhere on Earth. This amnesty coupled with actually practicing No First Cost will stop the tit for tat cycle we are presently on. "Forgive us our trspasses as we forgive those who trespass against us"..................."Hammer of Light Jun 27, 2017 4:54 PM Either Trump gets this one right on the right side of life or Trump is history.......... It is his alone to keep the peace here in the US and let peace breakout across the world to give everyone on earth time to heal. The US is absolutely in an Illegal war, ........ all our leaders who have supported these illegal wars must be brought to justice so they may be tried and executed following sentencing. It's time to go to the Hague and petition to open a line of communication to begin war crimes against humanity starting with the leadership of the UK - Israel and the United States... Not to worry Saudi Arabia... we won't leave you out of this! We the People have had enough of this insanity. It's time to start cutting the head off the snake.".

Dan: 19-Jun-2017 07:58:49
Consciousness chooses and God is the higher consciousness and prunes his garden. We judge ourselves by choosing NOT to judge ourselves.

Dan: 19-Jun-2017 07:52:49
The physical universe, Planck argued, "is an objective entity existing independently of man; the observer and the observed are not intimately coupled, as Bohr and his school would have it." Max Planck

Dan: 19-Jun-2017 07:34:38
“I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” Max Planck

Dan: 23-May-2017 05:40:51
"Courage is doing what you are afraid to do." Edciie Rickenbacker

Dan: 14-Apr-2017 06:24:59
"There is but one straight course and that is to seek the truth and pursue it steadily." George Washington

Dan: 11-Feb-2017 19:16:54
The philosophy of freedom = liberalism as originally defined is: Liberty and justice for all, above all. Our governments fundamental job is to protect freedom, not tell us what to do or what not to say or how to say it. - Dan Alter

Dan: 08-Feb-2017 05:05:57
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

Dan: 11-Jan-2017 11:15:31
Are we a noble people who seek truth?

Dan: 18-Oct-2016 07:58:58
Chris Chuba, consortium news 10-18-16 God isn’t on our side. Pride comes before a fall. “A troublemaker and a villain, who goes about with a corrupt mouth,…who plots evil with deceit in his heart – he always stirs up conflict. Therefore disaster will overtake him in an instant; he will suddenly be destroyed—withou t remedy.” Prov 6:12. I don’t think that it is a stretch to say that the Foreign Policy establishment(USA) has prevailed on us to do all of these things.

Dan: 09-Sep-2016 05:05:43
From ZeroHedge, THE NEW CHICAGO SKYLINE comment by WestVillageIdiot Sep 8, 2016 5:10 PM "My years on this planet have taught me that the vast majority of people who feel they have been held back in life can locate their number one oppressor simply by finding a mirror. I realize, at this point in life, that nobody has done more to hold me back than ME."

Dan: 13-Aug-2016 09:41:54
Zero Hedge; Son of Loki bamawatson Aug 12, 2016 11:28 PM " Es würde viel weniger Böses auf Erden geben, wenn das Böse niemals im Namen des Guten getan werden könnte. There would be much less evil on earth , when evil could never be done in the name of good."

Dan: 10-Aug-2016 06:36:50
Most major news media reporters are lazy and thus corrupt, so they do not work to seek the truth by challenging misstatements and they ignore anything that discomfits their political biases. In short, fools for showing us by their public deeds they are paid for liars.

Dan: 17-Apr-2016 14:47:54
The path to objective scientific truth requires answering dissent in public. It takes at least two of us to create an objective fact because we have to agree we perceive or measure the same thing. Science is even harder, as any of us have to be able to potentially confirm or disprove a scientific conclusion like e = mc^ or the Beer/Lambert Law.

Dan: 06-Apr-2016 05:42:25
It is a moral question we(I) face. Comment from Clusterf--k nation " amb April 4, 2016 at 11:28 am "The majority of people don’t get that this American political and governmental system is tainted and corrupt beyond repair. It has grown and festered over decades like a cancerous malignancy that is impossible to cure. Only a major crisis and a full reset would give us the opportunity to take a new path and build a better system. Although it could be a dysfunctional path—since it is common for people to NOT learn from their mistakes and repeat history, or at least rhyme with history as Mark Twain so eloquently stated. A great American philosopher made some cogent statements. To paraphrase: “The public will always elect their executioner.” “The resolution of civilization, society, government, politics, etc. depends solely on the resolution of the human mind.” To me, it is truly a spiritual and or mental solution that is required. Why has every empire disappeared into the annals of history? Because of a lack of personal ethics, and a plethora of immorality, greed, self-interest, differentiation and so on. These are the “viruses” that have reared their ugly heads and destroyed man’s creations throughout history. And we are in that process again with the great experiment (the USA). It is all about human behaviour. The human mind. Until man understands himself and has the tools to cure himself of his weaknesses we are doomed to repeat history. This to me is the basics of all basics.". We can not politically cooperate to disconnect our A-M debt unless we become moral. Only dire necessity, death for most of us first, would make that possible and a surviving N1CL. God demands truth from us and we are not a civilization of truth seekers. Only honestly using a public way to resolve disagreements on what any of us say to all will allow us to survive. 5.5 million hits without a question or comment from a stranger. Wowsers, you are such cowards.

Dan: 05-Dec-2015 01:45:21
Liberty is a moral question. Answering it requires we publicly agree on the necessary Do's and Dont's that freedom for all requires. Dan Alter

Dan: 05-Dec-2015 01:42:44
There is only one essential component of all truthful statements, the facts contained or implied therin are accurate. Dan Alter

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Dan: This quote says it well from "Do Disclosures of Atrocities Change Anything?" By ALEXANDER COCKBURN Counterpunch, July 31, 1010. twitchy questions such as that asked by The Nation’s Chris Hayes on the Rachel Maddow Show: “I wonder ultimately to whom WikiLeaks ends up being accountable.” The answer to that last question was given definitively in 1851 by Robert Lowe, editorial writer for the London Times. He had been instructed by his editor to refute the claim of a government minister that if the press hoped to share the influence of statesmen, it “must also share in the responsibilities of statesmen.” “The first duty of the press,” Lowe wrote, “is to obtain the earliest and most correct intelligence of the events of the time, and instantly, by disclosing them, to make them the common property of the nation… The Press lives by disclosures… For us, with whom publicity and truth are the air and light of existence, there can be no greater disgrace than to recoil from the frank and accurate disclosure of facts as they are. We are bound to tell the truth as we find it, without fear of consequences – to lend no convenient shelter to acts of injustice and oppression, but to consign them at once to the judgment of the world.”]. I can not say this better. We seek the truth as individuals and when enough of us do in public then we become a civilized society. I know it does not have to be a majority, but it must be at least a few percent of us; then the exemplars lead us all.
12-Nov-2017 16:01:13
Dan: In thinking more on the following entry, only a quarter of the inner surface of a single twist M have a Bowtie Line; thus extending these lines to the outer side of the M surface equals half the sueface. So the question is "What pattern?" and "What amgles with the center point of the M?", and "which of these centerpoint lines extend to another point on M surface?": Dan: 22-Jul-2017 09:47:54 geometric discovery on Moebius Strips; a Moebius Geometry Theorem: All points on the inner surface of a Moebius have a Bow Tie Line. Inner surface = one can draw a straight line to the center of the Moebius. Passing through the center point is not required to generate a BTL.
16-Oct-2017 05:40:44
Dan: Burning Betty Zero Hedge August 29, 2017: Time for that good ol' GDP joke: "Two Keynesian economists, John Maynard Keynes and Paul Krugman, were walking down the street one day when they passed two large piles of dog (edited). Keynes said to Krugman, "I'll pay you $20,000 to eat one of those piles of (edited)." Krugman agrees and chooses one of the piles and eats it. Keynes pays him his $20,000. Then Krugman, feeling richer, says, "I'll pay you $20,000 to eat the other pile of (edited)." Keynes, feeling bad about the money he lost says okay, and eats the (edited). Krugman pays him the $20,000. They resume walking down the street. After a while, Krugman says, "You know, I don't feel very good. We both have the same amount of money as when we started. The only difference is we've both eaten (edited)." Keynes says: "Ah, but you're ignoring the fact that we've increased the GDP by $40,000." And as someone stated as a comment to this joke; "That is really all you need to know about GDP… it's all dog(edited)."
30-Aug-2017 01:33:09
Dan: a french writer remarked, American civilization has passe from barbarism to decadence without once knowing civilizatiom." ; Memoirs of a Superfluous Man
28-Aug-2017 08:27:52
Dan: "A person engaged in mindless pursuit must always be in pursuit of mindlessness." ; That is my new second favourite quotation from Cognitive Dissonance, with this quote first: "The absolute best controlled opposition is one that doesn't know they are controlled." ReturnOfDaMac' ;s picture
28-Aug-2017 07:45:11
Dan: Francis Bacon: “Men prefer to believe what they prefer to be True.”
20-Aug-2017 10:50:57
amir.bukhari: Very Happy Rolling Eyes
26-Jul-2017 09:19:38
Dan: geometric discovery on Moebius Strips; a Moebius Geometry Theorem: All points on the inner surface of a Moebius have a Bow Tie Line. Inner surface = one can draw a straight line to the center of the Moebius. Passing through the center point is not required to generate a BTL.
22-Jul-2017 17:47:54
Dan: I have thought long on Hammer's proposal. We need to start with a clean slate, but only after we set example as "Hammer of Justice" demands. We can't punish all of our leaders who have done crimes, but we must set swift ruthless examples with the worst. Once this is done, then we can actually begin with a clean slate. This means we must do a general amnesty. How is simple. We have to politically agree to start No First Cost politically everywhere on Earth. This amnesty coupled with actually practicing No First Cost will stop the tit for tat cycle we are presently on. "Forgive us our trspasses as we forgive those who trespass against us"..................."Hammer of Light Jun 27, 2017 4:54 PM Either Trump gets this one right on the right side of life or Trump is history.......... It is his alone to keep the peace here in the US and let peace breakout across the world to give everyone on earth time to heal. The US is absolutely in an Illegal war, ........ all our leaders who have supported these illegal wars must be brought to justice so they may be tried and executed following sentencing. It's time to go to the Hague and petition to open a line of communication to begin war crimes against humanity starting with the leadership of the UK - Israel and the United States... Not to worry Saudi Arabia... we won't leave you out of this! We the People have had enough of this insanity. It's time to start cutting the head off the snake.".
28-Jun-2017 06:07:29
Dan: Consciousness chooses and God is the higher consciousness and prunes his garden. We judge ourselves by choosing NOT to judge ourselves.
19-Jun-2017 07:58:49
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